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Episode 104 Andy Barr – The Man Who Optimizes Kevin Durant & Top NBA Stars




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One percenters. Welcome back to another episode of the one percent podcast.

I know we're still in quarantine time, but we're going to take a quantum leap forward today with our guest, Dr. Andy Barr. Andy is an established leader in the field of high performance in injury risk reduction with over 20 years of experience working with the top athletes in all sports. The New York Knicks, the Brooklyn Nets, Major League Soccer, you name it, Kevin Durant. He is the one bringing back Kevin Durant from injury. The NBA way lays in his hands.

Andy is one of the leading sports performance specialists in the world. And we go in depth on this episode on the mindset of the top athletes in the world, what they're doing to train their bodies, how they're recovering daily, how they recover from injuries and so much more to totally optimize your mind and body on this episode of the one percent podcast. So one percenters buckle up because here we go. Superexcited share with you guys, my first book, Pivot and Go, is on presale.

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Andy Barr, welcome to the one percent podcast. Thank you, sir. Thanks having me. Yes. First of all, I got to point out, you have the best accent of any of my friends that I know. So great job. Kudos to you on your accent, Andy. Start us off with a bang. Start us off with something maybe nobody knows about you. Just going in-depth. Andy Barr.

Something known as well. Let's start at fifteen. Let's go out. Fifteen. To pursue my dream of being a professional soccer basketball player.

Yeah. It was like just stepped into the real world when my own left home. Yeah. That was my. My style obviously went back to school like three, four years later when I didn't quite fulfill my dream at that stage. But yeah, that was my goal. Fifteen go.

Wow man. So your goal was to play professional play football, soccer professionally leaving at 15. Then obviously you have to make a pivot in your life. This this kind of sounds like the journey of my life, thinking I was going to play in the NBA poor and everything I could into the NBA and realizing it wasn't about playing, but actually coaching. Did you have that same kind of pivot that had to happen in your life?

One hundred percent is exactly what happened. I mean, I love love playing football.

It was my dream. My passion was everything I wanted to do. You know, I just dedicate so much hours and time to just, you know, is everything to me. I'm coach. I just didn't train well and I didn't make mistakes. You know, the confidence issues was just, you know, there was a lot of things that I recognize now why I didn't make it boiled down to injury. That's what, you know, the excuse I made.

But, you know, there was a lot more to it than this. I decided, you know, I need to have something else to fall back on. I wanted to stay in school and, you know, keep working with athletes. And then it wasn't till, you know, as I was trained, I was like, you know what? I want to use what I learned as a player to help athletes are bullied, the mistakes I made, and try to help them fulfill that potential.

So that was kind of my epiphany and realization of what my purpose was to to move forward. So I just decided, well, you know, I know coach school. I want to, you know, help athletes as best I can. So I just want to learn as much as I can about my area where I can help them. So that's when I started my journey. Like twenty twenty. My playing career.

Andy, I love that. And first off, excuses of injury. That that's that's a real thing. Like my excuses. I'm six two and I can't even hardly touch the net. So that's why I didn't make the NBA. So yours are a lot more real excuses than mine were. But it's. Was there anything because it's not mean it's not easy to make a pivot in our life, a change in life, because it's literally like everything we've poured our lives into is the doors closed.

It shut. But was there anything that got you on that path? Like, for me, it was my mom said a quote when she was doing dishes and I was living on the recliner chair feeling bad for myself after I got cut from a second division team in northern Spain, she said when one door closes for open and it it resonated with me. Was there anything in your life that you realized and all this all this detail, all this hard work I put into plane was actually for optimizing athletes to be the best that they can be.

Yeah, well, I think it was just that, right? I mean, you know, I always loved science and learned into education. So, you know, I maintain a certain level of not just stuff of my own motivation. And while I was playing and I was like, you know, I still want to let I want to know. I always. My dad always was a great mentor to me. He was like, you know, never, never.

Always think about your next step. Like, always be ready for your next step and start to plan ahead and set goals. And, you know, your football career may be short lived. So I went into the game knowing, OK, this could be short lived. Make sure I'm prepared for it if it is. Unfortunately, that was one of the things I did. I'd still maintain my education, even though I left school at fifteen. I still continue my learning and set myself up.

I did stuff part time and it's some off my back. You know, I was just because of that, I maintain my network after football, which then allowed me to, you know, get mother other opportunities. But I was just, you know, maintaining relationships with the people that I met along the way. And they're just trying to keep a positive mindset like throughout. And just keep focused on new goals. And it's you know, I still left the door open to to maybe playing someday.

But then at one point I was just like, you know, I can make a choice here because after I did well, I was trained to be a physio. I did that part time. So I did a longer course. And I work part time in the hospital as like a physio assistant. And I also played part time as a semi player. So actually to play fairly well again. And I was like, you know, got to a point where I could like make a push to be a pro again or like think about my longevity of my career and actually made a decision, you know.

I think I've got more of a chance of having a longer, more fulfilling and more impactful career. If I go into being a physio and helping athletes and then taking the risk and going back to playing again, although that was my original dream. The pivot in my mind was already like, you know, I think I could be more successful going down that path. That was a big decision at that point. What was it, about 20, 21?

So then I took a fulltime job with a Premier League team in soccer and was just blessed. I worked with an organization that was at the forefront of sports science medicine. So it was a pretty good decision on that. Something to go.

We're always being ready for your next step. I love that one step ahead of the competition in your mind as well, and the way you used your passion of your of your love for science and put it into selling your other past and your love for football and putting them together. That's that's I thing a lot of people struggle on. They don't think they can make their passion actually what their career is. But you can there's different ways to get into sports.

You don't just have to be the athlete. There's so many and you see this now at a very high level. How how different positions in sports that can actually be. So if your dream is to get in sports just because you might not make it. Me and Andy did at the professional level, you can definitely get there and going into that. And you're what I consider just overall the top optimization person walking the planet, like literally like I don't even know what title I would give you.

I know your Quanta performance here, physical therapy, performance testing, performance training. But I every time I'm with you, it's just. Are you working with Kevin Durand? You're working with Paul, George, Tyson, Chandler, Carmelo, like anybody that I see at the high level. Yeah. And he's been working with them. How did how did you get to where you are.

As far as understanding like, OK, this is how I'm going to optimize athletes. This is how I'm going to put it, my infrastructure of quantum performances. Let's just break that down. What does that exactly mean? So what was my tough way to where I am right now, I think.

Well, not not not necessarily. Not necessarily pathway, but what what does this Quantou performance that you're teaching these high level NBA players? What exactly is this like? What is the secret sauce that Andy Barr is giving these guys to make them great?

I mean, I think I go in up with a level of respect and then just try and build a relationship and understand it. You know, it's not I don't have, like, an authoritarian approach to anything. I think it's it's all about understanding and respect and culture, where people from what they're trying to do, what their goals are, and then just building the relationship and finding common ground. And I think from doing that, I've been pretty successful at my approach.

You know, communication is everything. In order to, you know, communicate well, you need to be skilled at your message so that the way that you build relationships is key with your players and nothing. So you work with and that's something that, you know, I pride myself on. I think starting from understanding the sport is the key, what the universal laws of that sport or that environment that that athlete comes from and understanding what their goals and dreams are and then just trying to help them, like help them get to achieve what they want to do.

And often when they're injured in it, need to get inside the mindset what that means. It's a big gap in their life. Like every in sport is everything to them, unfortunately, because I've been on that path myself, like I can relate to that. So being able to relate, having common ground and then just, you know, understanding where their goals are and what the demands are that they are exposed to is key. So that's you know what that's what quantum performances about.

It's like taking, you know, the best of the best technology and skills, but applying it to the environment that it's relevant to, you know, to make the best of of the rehabilitation or training environment for that athlete.

All right. I love it. Let's break these down. So let's go into the specific training, like a sports specific training. What are the keys that you teach and the keys that you see? And I've done some workouts with you, and it was amazing. I think things I've never seen done before, but I know how specific sports specific you are is will work with some of the same NBA players and everything that you're doing is very relevant to their movements on the court.

Is that something that is like their number one important factor when you're training for a sport?

Yeah, exactly. I think, like I said, understanding the universal laws, what the game is. And then I have a reference from the sports that I work in that allows me to guide the actions that I want to train. Now, every athlete in a team environment, you know, playing with other players. So they're not individual athletes, the relative individuals that want to be the best team players. So you've got to understand that that's what they're doing, the same players from the start.

They are constantly communicating with other athletes on the on the court or on the field, whatever the what the sport is understanding, what the actual action is. So that basketball action, for instance, isn't just, you know, throw an Ebola hoop, a jump shot. It's starts with a communication, understanding the environment, then making a decision after they've communicated with the other players or whatever the environment is, and then execute in their skill and then repeat in those fitness.

And then there's many different actions performed during team sport. So like I said before, it jump shows it as an example of an action in basketball and it's only in action in basketball if it's if fulfills those four characteristics. And outside of the core, when it becomes outside of the interaction with the other players, then it becomes a basic action are basic actions are similar. You can create actions are similar in movements that relate to a basketball or football action where they're not exactly the action.

You have to understand that stop, because in order to really train basketball actions and movements, you need to have the four characteristics I mentioned. So a lot of my training is more around basic action. So I'll break down the basic actions that relate to a basketball action and then I'll try to refine the movements and the coordination within those actions to optimize the control, the strength, the resilience, the mobility. And I look at, well, what is the what are the characteristics of an action in terms of quality?

So you look at a basketball action and we zoom in on the court. Every action starts with four characteristics. So there's always the position that they are on the court, on the field of soccer, the the timing or the moment of that. In the direction of the action and then the speed of action. So those characteristics always apply in every situation. So I try and zoom out of that or zoom into what I'm looking at the body. I'm looking at basic action.

So rather than looking at it well. Are they on the right position horizontally on the on the core? Can they get into the right position vertically with their body? Not if you look at the time. And can they react quick enough to a situation on the call. Well, can they react quickly with a body? Does a body respond quickly to the muscle, then respond quick enough to a situation? Direction. Can they control the direction or are they going in the correct direction?

Cool. Or can they control the direction of the body? Do they have the coordination skills, the strengths, the ability to absorb and reproduce falls of the muscles and tendons can do that within their body. And then can they act or perform actions quickly at speed? Can they do that on the call? Or can I do that on the body like a problem solving approach? If they can't do on the call and you can't solve the problem on the call, fulfill in the basketball action characteristics or communication decision execution, then you take them off the call.

And that's where I step in. I can break it down. So. OK. On the college children with. Let's break it down. Zoom in to how it looks in the body. I'm one of those four characteristics is what we're gonna address. Is it the position of the body, the time and moment direction or the speed? And then my training program is based around those four characteristics and I create action exercises that relate to them, or I create movement exercise that relate to them.

Now, the movements of the captain all the time. So whenever you do an action, you have multiple movements are synchronized depending on what the situation is. So there's no good or bad movement. There's just movement on those. But the outcomes are well, all of the essential things are what? What is the outcome to that move on the core? It's easy to determine what a good outcome is. Know, are you hitting that shot? Are you getting past?

You defend that. You know those things. So off the. It's more about getting better body. No one is control, you know, being able to adjust your body, get into and out of situations, improve in technique. So those things are key fundamentals to, you know, the full characteristics I work on when I'm looking at developing the characteristics of basic actions and basic movements that relate to those actions and is gold that is so in depth for any athlete or anybody wanted to improve their performance right there.

Their position, timing, direction, speed. Awesome. All need to be covered. And I love. I love how you use the term zooming in and zooming out because different areas are gonna be different for different people. Not everybody is the same. So you figure out what you have to focus on with them and then you take it into the steps of assessing, making those action steps and then applying all based on the true, genuine relationship that you have with these players.

That is an amazing formula. And I've been using a formula similar that with different terms for different types of things. And it's it's awesome to hear that you say that. And and Mike, our saying you are the top optimisation person that I know. I'm giving you that title. And I don't know how much you can talk on this or not as we talk about the physical therapy part is you are bringing back the best one. But top two NBA player right now, Kevin Durant, from injury, like our Kevin Durant's performance is going to be based on what you guys are doing right now behind the scenes.

Is there anything that these top guys like the Durand's to Paul Jorges, the top athletes that you work with that separates them from maybe just the good or the average type of NBA players or professional athletes? Do they? Is it now? Now, I know that it depends on what their situation is, but is there anything different that really stands out about them?

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I think their dedication to greatness and the quality at which they do everything, like, I mean, impressed with some of the best athletes in the world and just I just noticed that, you know, every time I stepped foot on the call or every time they do something, you know, they just put 100 percent effort into it. And the quality is no excuses. They just try and get it done to the best of their ability. And, you know, they lead by example a lot of times.

By doing that, I it's you know, they're going through the motions. It happens too frequently. And that's one of the things I don't see in the best. They just do not go through the motions. They give like the best quality. So every situation. That's great. I love how you said 100 hundred percent committed, because that's the difference between interest when people are interested in doing something and they are committed no matter what and they don't.

They don't give in. They lead by example. That's so great. Yeah.

Scio for greatness. And I think they know how to be great by just doing being committed 100 percent. Yep. Up with relentless consistency.

It's beautiful. So as important as the body is and as important as the physical movements are, you understand how important the mind set development is.

And on the one percent podcast, we talk a lot about having the highest performance, optimal mindset as everything that you teach along with the positioning. Training direction, speed, their timing direction to speed up as well as the mindset development piece. Yeah.

I mean, I think, you know, the my philosophy is the body is the mind. The mind is sort of the body. You know, the mind is in the brain. So every, you know, what you express and externally is only what's going on internally. So your body is an expression of what you're thinking about, what you thought. So your subconscious is key to what thoughts you are having in your mind and in your brain. And then your conscious is what allows you to filter or respond to those subconscious thoughts so you can control your conscious thinking, but you can't control your subconscious thinking.

And it's your subconscious, really, that makes you you. So for me, I know everything I do is try. And so it's always to tap into that subconscious of the AFL, like the language that I use when I'm working with them, how I approach the injury and an understanding that the injury is not them. You know, it's just something that will pass on everybody. You know, it's just really tapped into to the mindset and being able to really get them to start understanding how to train their subconscious for success.

Thinking about program in the subconscious. From the very start. Like the best athletes I work with, I'm like, OK, what to go where we trying to get to? What were you doing? When how did you feel at your very best? What was the feeling that you had? And how can we recreate that as part of your recovery, as part of the goal or the training that we're trying to get you to? What were the best moments in your career?

Let's look at that. Let's talk about that. Watch that video and then feel that be there. And then because you all of that, that's where you will get to. And then they always find that they can really achieve their goals and get back to the Best Buy by really training the subconscious and tapping into that as much as possible. So I think I mean, personally, I'm a huge believer in that. But I think, you know, if you can the brain controls everything is the control center.

So you go to that's the first thing that you train and then you train the brain in every situation. So, you know, the mind is part of the brain. So it's like that is the biggest thing that any athlete or any person should be constantly trying to train and just improve the quality and the quantity of better thinking and thoughts. You know, if you can do that, then you're gonna line yourself up more for success and achievement of your goals and be more in line with what your purpose and mission is.

Love it. That's your answers are so quality. We talk about the importance of quality, your answers are so quality. I love how you talk about the subconscious, the important of the subconscious. We got to work together in some way, man. This is my big spot on what I'm teaching guys to how to trigger the subconscious. And just like on the court, you build habits. Your mind also build have builds habits. It's what we feed ourselves.

We are the people we talk to the most throughout the day by far. And whether you're feeding yourself in these negative, self-defeating thoughts or these positive. This is who you are at your best task. That's who you become. So tapping into the subconscious. And that is the power. And that is immense. And I know some people think about I it's oh, it's it's kind of woo woo the subconscious. But really, you can't control your subconscious to the point where that is who you are.

You are at your best level every single day based on your mindsets to such a awesome, awesome. Manser and love hearing you say that man is. And as we continue to go on to mindset development and personal growth, you being the top optimization person coach.

Is there anything that you do personally in your personal growth that are non negotiables or things that you really feel like give you the upper hand and continue to help you grow?

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I think any successful person needs to discover their passion, figure out their purpose and mission, and then, yeah, really just get clear on the undefined. Oh, no way. What your vision is. And then what I try and do is really work on my own subconscious everyday. Like that's my goal. I know. I try to recognize if I'm thinking thoughts on for my benefit or the benefit of others, and then I try and control that.

And then I know that if I can really input good stuff into my brain and program my brain better, then I'm going to get the better output. So every day, like I wake up, I try and meditate first thing in the morning. Helps me, you know, just create that gap and focus for the day. And then, you know, exercise exercise really helps me think well and think better. But then I'll. Before I go to bed, too, I'll have a list of all the things up.

You know what my goals are, what I want to achieve and the steps to do that. And then I'll look it up for that's a bed. And then that's hopefully what's getting fed into my brain. I'll grab visual stuff that I'll look out. I'll be like, Yeah, that's what I want to achieve. That's where I want to go. That's how I'm going to achieve my vision. Like these that this is my goals. And that's what I want to get there.

You know, I'd do that every day. And then I meditate in the morning. And then I do affirmations like every day I try and get my affirmations in which are in alignment with my my purpose. And that is where it really how I feel I've been able to get to. Where I've got today is just by being disciplined at doing that. And then just being committed to constantly learning and growing. Like, I don't want to be stuck and I want to keep learning.

I don't know anything. Like, I just stepped foot myself. Like, I need. I need to know a lot more. I need to keep learning. And I can learn so much more from the people who are with. Everybody has something to offer. I'm just curious. Maintaining curiosity and all in all areas to. That's why I'm very passionate about understanding the human mind, the brain leadership and then business now, too, as like something that I've had to pivot my learning less than the physical therapy and strength and conditioning performance technical stuff, although I have like a huge interest in Sillen.

So trying to cope on the learning side. I've got to go more on the business and growth of that and how do I connect with my clients and customers? And you know what? What are the strategies I need to use for that? So that's kind of like an insight into my daily routine and mindset. I knew there is a reason we got along so well, like literally. It sounds pretty much exactly like me and I promise I didn't tell him these questions.

Right, and I didn't pick him up to these answers. That's so powerful. I love the power of the affirmations, the curiosity, the morning routines, the evening routines made up. Other than you have, in a way, cooler accent than I do. We might be the same person. I'm a throw you on the rapid fire hot seat.

So whatever comes to your mind, it could be short answers. It could be long. Whatever comes your mind, spit it out. The rapid fire hot seat, your favorite mind set quote. We're talking about affirmations. We're talking about mindset. I know you'd mentioned earlier your dad said always be ready for your next step. Do you have any quotes that you might plaster on your fridge?

I know I only write down little ones here and there and stuff from what I read, but there's a few that stick him on line. Was like every monster was once a disaster. Like, I love that this too shall pass. Like it's like if you're in a Shan's. This will pass. Like be the observer. But the beauty experience. Well, the experience adaptability was genius. No adjustability. That's like an Einstein quote. I was really stuck in my mind, like, you know, be adaptable.

You have to adjust to every situation, be welcomed. What else? Like live every second. Good laughs. You know, try and really just enjoy the moment and like, do the best you kind of every situation, whatever the task is or action or whatever it is that you're doing, 100 percent effort to it.

So there like some of the you know, the ones I would just spring to mind.

That's crazy. Cut those right on your mind. I can tell you're build your subconscious through those. And I never heard the every master was once a disaster. That is great. So true. I'm still in that for sure. What is what is your definition of leaving a legacy? Not necessarily. How many people in the world know you or being on a billboard or anything like that, or what would be leaving a legacy to Andy Barr?

Just being really able to impact the greater good of, you know, health, wellness and performance, not only of the best athletes in the world, but those are Grauwe grassroots.

I went through my, you know, youth career as having goals and dreams and didn't fulfill my playing potential, as I mentioned before, and just been able to really make an impact on Trent trying to help, you know, grassroots athletes avoid injury and really maximize their opportunity to to fulfill the sporting career and longevity that they deserve.

It's beautiful. And then they learn that and then they're able to go teach others. So given a man a fish, I said teaching a man out of fear. So it's yet beautiful answer.

If you weren't doing what you are doing and being the optimization expert for the top athletes in the world, what would you be doing?

Oh, good question. It would be an education in some capacity, I think. Maybe teach in. I love. Maybe also in the health care industry to be a doctor or just some way where I can help others in some capacity. I love, you know, the body and science is something that would tie in an education.

Nice. And the question burning on everyone's mind out there. Gabrielle, if you can answer it or not, but I put you on the spot if you can. Is Katie coming back? Back? Better than ever before. That's the goal.

It was like to point everybody out. It's an opportunity for a year. We're going to get you better than you've been before. So. Yeah, love it.

Love it. Brooklyn NBA champs come in soon. Andy, you're amazing. How can we all follow you, follow what you're doing and learn from you. Just know everything. Andy Barr.

Well, I had to have an Instagram and Twitter account. They're both Andy Barr Peaty. I'm actually working on a online course right now. And a mentorship program. So I'm gonna be bringing in in the coming months. And then. Yeah, so that's that's what I run courses from time to time and trying to get my message out there a little bit more through social media. So hopefully you want to sign up. I can be put in more, more content out in the coming months.

Well, I got some tournaments. Yeah, man, Dizzie, you're pivoting during this time, like get a lot of more stuff is gonna go to courses. I'm doing the same thing. Developing courses always stay in that one step ahead of the game. Love it. I would, I would purchase any coke. Course you have. And learn from you as much as I possibly can, man. No doubt I'll be your first customer. Used to let me know when it's out.

Appreciate it.

The final question I have for you on this one percent podcast that we ask everybody, what does being a one percenter mean to you? One percent. I mean, I would I wouldn't ever think of myself as one percent. I mean, so I just, you know, stay humble and just do my best and just keep growing. That's that's what I try and do. That allows me to maybe stay at the best of my game. So just stay in Hungary.

Keep to a ball constantly. Any.

But that's what it is. That's what the one percenters about. That's about pouring into yourself daily so that you can pour into others staying humble and doing so. But knowing that you continue with learning, growing every single day, one percent steps daily so that you can go spread that important others. So you are a walking, breathing one percenter, my man. And we have got to work together. There is no doubt about that, even if it's just for me to be around you and pick your brain and learn from you.

Hundred percent, man. We're gonna we're gonna figure out a way to do it.

Yeah, sure. Andy, you're a legend. Thank you so much for coming on the one percent podcast, dropping your knowledge and just optimizing every listener out there. Thank you, brother. Thanks. I admit it was fun. Appreciate it, sir.

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